From North Korea to the Clinton Foundation

How did we get here?

Photo: Tim Kaine and Mike Pence. (CBS News/YouTube)

We didn’t learn much from the first and only vice presidential debate between Tim Kaine and Mike Pence.

Kaine pursued a hard line of attack against Donald Trump, but Pence’s geniality and Kaine’s poor timing killed most of those attacks before they could stick.

The only moment of honest agreement between the two was on criminal justice reform, which even Pence said was a necessity as he said that some police killings of black men were tragedies. But Pence said talking about implicit racial bias meant that Clinton and Kaine were “attacking” police officers and law enforcement.

Kaine said that the first steps towards fixing America’s broken policing system is more community policing. Pence agreed.

Kaine added that nothing will be solved unless the government passes comprehensive, universal mental health care and creates programs that take guns off the street.

At one point, a question from moderator Elaine Quijano about how a Clinton or Trump administration would address North Korea ended up devolving into a back-and-forth between Kaine and Pence about the Clinton Foundation.

My biggest takeaway from an unimportant evening is that Trump surrogates on CNN and MSNBC could learn a lot from Pence in terms of deflecting Trump’s lunacy while still seeming folksy.

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